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4th August 2007

Modding : Apple Video Ipod (5g & 5.5g) - The Compact Flash Version

By Tarkan | Permanent Link
Updated Wed, 16th January 2008

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UPDATE: iFlash iPod CompactFlash adaptor has been launched. More information can be found here.

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With CF InstalledAfter re-attaching the battery, headphone / hold switch connection and the usb cable. ITunes popped up requesting I restore / update my corrupt IPod which I gladly ok’ed and a few more minutes’ later summary page showed me that I had 3.74 GB capacity. Success was mine!!!!!

Testing

So for testing I decided it would be a good idea to see how the device worked with a slow card and a more modern fast card, obviously I will compare these to the standard hard drive.

My first cheap and cheerful card is the 4 GB Kingston Technology Elite Pro with a 45x speed rating, the faster card is the SanDisk’s 4 GB Extreme III rated at 133x. For transfer rate measuring I am going to use WinAmp 5 installed with the excellent ml-ipod plug-in – mainly because it’s the best non ITunes system and because it displays the average transfer rate while syncing!!

  • Standard Hard Drive – 10000KB/s (Peak 11000KB/s)
  • SanDisk Extreme III (133x) – 8000KB/s (Peak 8500KB/s)
  • Kingston Elite Pro (45x) – 2500KB/s (Peak 2700KB/s)

Ipod with board connectedAs you can see the standard hard drive wins, but the story is not that straight forward. What the above table does not show is the fact that you generally have to wait for the hard drive to spin up which I measure to be at least 2 seconds, then it takes a further couple of seconds to get up to speed.

The hard drive transfer rate is also affected by the mix of files, if the files are all very large than you can achieve the above transfer rates. However if you have smaller files than a lot of time is lost to head seeking. I would say in everyday use there is nothing separating the SanDisk from the standard hard drive. I would expect modern 150x cards to have the same transfer speeds as the hard drive.

In use I found both CF cards performed exactly the same, it was impossible to determine which card was installed from using the IPod. Song changes where instant and compared to the hard drive the user experience was smooth as butter, first thing you notice is there is no delays waiting for the drive to spin-up and move the head in to position. Ipod with board connected

Visually you can see that the battery is having an easier life, normally with the hard drive you can see a slight dimming of the display backlight during spin-up. I am still testing battery life and I am in the process of making a circuit board with test points so I can take actual measurements.

Until then I would say for someone who leaves the IPod to play continuously without interruption may see an increase of up to 20% play time. On the other hand for someone like me who is constantly adjusting things, fast forwarding through video’s and never can wait till the song finishes to change track will likely expect to see doubling of play time, you may be thinking wild claims but you need to understand Apple uses quite aggressive power saving technique which have been designed assuming you hit play and leave alone.

I would also expect to see greater play time for video’s as I suspect the hard drive is lot more involved during this kind of use. I will update this section after more actual testing. The last difference noticed was how clean it all sounded, on my unit whenever the hard drive was spinning up or just idling the noise floor was much higher (this is probably due to the fact I use earphones which have very good high frequency response.)

Conclusion Ipod About Screen

Concluding this article is quite difficult as what I have done while being neat and cool is at the same time not really worth doing. There is a big element of because I can!! Compact Flash cards are still quite expensive and on last checking you can pick up a 16gb 150x OEM card for about £80 ($160) which is about £20 ($40) more than a replacement 30gb hard drive, so it is not value for money.

My personal reason for starting this little project is expectation, I buy my equipment for its functional use – I expect my camera equipment to handle whatever my body handles hiking up a 4000m pass and I also expect the same from my music player. The IPod has been designed with this concept, with its steel backing plate and internal metal frame it is a survivor but sadly as all things it is only as strong as its weakest point – the hard drive.

The major downside is the storage capacity currently limiting you to 16gb which for me is no problem as my needs barely stretch over 6gb but for some 30gb hard drive is the only option. This project also has good side benefits, the extended battery life and smoother user experience is a serious improvement in itself.

Bottom line has to be if money is no object than it is well worth doing this mod!!

PS. My testing has been limited to 4gb CF’s, if someone is willing to donate a 16gb CF for testing (I will return it of course!) it will be much appreciated.

PPS. Several people have asked about the Microsoft Zune players, my internet searches tell me that the same kind of hard drive is used in these as the Video IPod. As my design fits within the size of the hard drive I assume it would work well.

UPDATE: Several people have pointed out this would also probably work in the iRiver DAP’s such as the H10 and most of the other hard drive driven music players. Pros

  • Longer Battery Life
  • Faster Smoother User Interface
  • Solid Sate no moving parts
  • Cleaner Sound

Cons

  • Expensive
  • Limited to 16gb (currently)

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  1. 1 On August 4th, 2007, Collin Allen said:

    Wow, nice work! (And thanks for the link, too!) You’re the first modder I’ve seen who has successfully attached a CompactFlash card to one of the 5G iPods. That’s pretty impressive.

  2. 2 On August 5th, 2007, ROBERT_SAN6 said:

    Hello this is cool ipod video working with compact flash, where could i get this adapter ? can i find it on ebay

  3. 3 On August 6th, 2007, Ignacio said:

    Hello I’m interested in doing this to my Ipod video. I am wondering where you got the board? I can’t seem to find it anywhere. Thanks.

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  15. 15 On August 9th, 2007, Promaxum Technology News » Blog Archive » 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage said:

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  18. 18 On August 9th, 2007, Your Gadget Guide » Blog Archive » 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage said:

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  19. 19 On August 9th, 2007, » 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage said:

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  20. 20 On August 9th, 2007, James Pearce said:

    Hi there, im currently working on a similar project (just waiting for the parts to arrive!), except not with an Ipod, but instead with a Mustek PVR which I use as a recording device for my helmet / bullet camera. I want to be able to strap the device to my mountain bike, but I just know its gunna be bad news for the hard drive!! So anyway, ive ordered a CF to IDE adapter, and an 8Gb CF card. I see no reason why a 16Gb shouldnt work. Also, before with the hard drive, battery life while recording wasnt great, so this should improve things quite well. What sort of improvements in battery life have you experienced with this modification?

    Thanks,

    James.

  21. 21 On August 9th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    James,

    I will be able to give you exact figures in 2 weeks - I am in the process of making a modified adaptor which will allow me to make current measurements while the ipod is operating.

    I can say with your device you should see some serious improvements - Assuming your hard drive is spinning while recording it will be drawing over 300mA, while the CF should not exceed 100mA. This does not mean your device will work 3 times longer as you need to look at it in context of how much the whole device draws.

    If your device uses 400mA recording then with the CF you may see a doubling of time.

    I will be updating my article with exact figures, so please come back!

    regards, Tarkan

  22. 22 On August 9th, 2007, 设计界 » Blog Archive » 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage said:

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  23. 23 On August 9th, 2007, James Pearce said:

    Thanks for your quick reply Tarkan, and email notification. I really dont know how much power the device consumes, but yes the hard drive is constantly spinning while recording. I guess quite a lot of power goes into the encoding process of the video and audio. Double battery run time would be fantastic to be honest. I certainly will check back, ive added the site to my favourites. I saw your modification on Engandget. Unfortunately I havent got a site such as your to host the details of my mod when it happens, I might be able to do it on my fotopic account. I think when it’s done I’ll let Engadget know about it, im sure they would be interested to see it. I need to get it modded before the end of the month, as im off biking in the south of Wales, and I’d really like to use it there! Just need the parts to arrive, as the mod should only take a couple of mins (ive already tried it with a spare laptop hard drive to check it will work).

    Thanks,

    James.

  24. 24 On August 9th, 2007, Planeta IPLegal » 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage said:

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  25. 25 On August 9th, 2007, Hardware Hacking: Broken iPod 5G Replaces Hard Drive for Compact Flash : Teknicks Blog said:

    [...] Tarkan Akdam hated the iPod until his wife demanded one. However, instead of getting a new one he went the cheap way: got a broken one on eBay, a couple of small parts, a 4GB Compact Flash card and ended up with a custom 5.6mm x 51mm x 61mm module to replace its broken hard drive. The result: iPod as new, with less space but more battery life. [Tarkan Akdam’s Bored] [...]

  26. 26 On August 9th, 2007, Anthony Moore said:

    Hey Tarkan, just a suggestion here. A really cool idea would be to make that CF card accessible outside the iPod. That way you can upgrade without cracking open the case again/risking hurting the pod again.

    Maybe make the PCB at an angle, with the CF out to one side, then cut a cf-sized hole in the side of the iPod.

    I am tempted to design myself an MP3 player which, unlike the iPod, takes AAA batteries.

  27. 27 On August 9th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    Anthony,

    Your idea is not that crazy, one of my original ideas was to mount the CF side ways, all that would be needed is a slot cut at the side of the backing cover (and small amount of filing down of the metal frame where the slot would be), and you could have a removeable CF arrangement.

    regards, Tarkan

  28. 28 On August 9th, 2007, Feed Me Feeds » Blog Archive » 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage said:

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  29. 29 On August 9th, 2007, Gizmodo Technology » Hardware Hacking: Broken iPod 5G Replaces Hard Drive for Compact Flash said:

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  30. 30 On August 9th, 2007, Esta roto su ipod? No lo tires a la basura todavía. said:

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  31. 31 On August 9th, 2007, Darren said:

    Can you make me a circuit board? I don’t have the patience to solder all those connectors. ;)

  32. 32 On August 9th, 2007, Josjua said:

    could this be done with a 1.8 inch ssd that had the ribbon cable and the same dimensions as the 30gb harddrive because you would not need an interface board and they come in up yo 64 GB

  33. 33 On August 9th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    Josjua, Yes - the Sandisk SSD’s would be a drop in replacement for the original hard drive, however with these SSD’s the price is main issue - they are extremely expensive.

    regards, Tarkan

  34. 34 On August 9th, 2007, Technical world - All about technical things » 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage said:

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  35. 35 On August 9th, 2007, Multimedias.mobi » 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage said:

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  36. 36 On August 9th, 2007, Hardware Hacking: Broken iPod 5G Replaces Hard Drive for Compact Flash | Hizs - The lowdown on gadgets said:

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  37. 37 On August 9th, 2007, Jammed.mobi » 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage said:

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  38. 38 On August 9th, 2007, Francisco said:

    There’s a 32GB CF out there. http://www.microdia.com

  39. 39 On August 9th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    Wow!! All I need now is someone to donate one for testing :)

    regards, Tarkan

  40. 40 On August 10th, 2007, 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage | Tech News said:

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  41. 41 On August 10th, 2007, Crowpod said:

    This mod makes no sense.

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  45. 45 On August 10th, 2007, Rogue said:

    With your hatred of iPods and Apple I am surprised you haven’t reflashed with Rockbox yet as it would give you your final separation and allows the iPod to act like a USB drive when plugged into your PC

  46. 46 On August 10th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    Never heard of Rockbox, looks cool - will give it a try when I test 8 gb and 16gb CF cards.

  47. 47 On August 10th, 2007, Ipod Express » Blog Archive » Broken iPod 5G Replaces Hard Drive for Compact Flash said:

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  48. 48 On August 11th, 2007, DvD del.icio.us bookmarks : August 8, 2007 - August 10, 2007 at Wannaplay.it said:

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  49. 49 On August 11th, 2007, Abraham said:

    Are you by any chance selling the bare PCBs?

  50. 50 On August 15th, 2007, Evan said:

    The harddrive on my 5th gen ipod crapped out do you think it would be possible for this to help me out so I can continue to use my ipod?

  51. 51 On August 15th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    Evan, It will help you but - if you need 30gb of storage than replacing the hard drive would be better and cheaper for you.The Compact Flash route is more expensive but better reliability.

    regards, Tarkan

  52. 52 On August 15th, 2007, Corey said:

    How much extra room did you have with your single CF card? Would it be possible to fit two CF cards in the same space given you can find some way to make two CF cards read as a single drive?

  53. 53 On August 16th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    Corey, Sadly it is a No on two fronts. It is easy to design a two card design but 2 CF will not fit in the Ipod, just not enougth space for the cards and connectors. 2nd the Ipod firmware does not have necessary coding to access both cards.

    Tarkan

  54. 54 On August 16th, 2007, Blog - iPod iPhone informacje … » iPod Video w wersji Flash said:

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  55. 55 On August 18th, 2007, 5G iPod mod trades the hard drive for CF storage : Power Webblog said:

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  56. 56 On August 19th, 2007, Hadrien said:

    Hi Tarkan,
    First congratulations for your work…I feel this really amazing ;-)
    I have to change my hard-disk on my ipod 30Gb 5g and i’ve heard that a special repartionning (3 partitions actually) of the drive was requested by the itune ipod updater… When you’ve made your modz,didn’t you have to create any partitions?
    Regards,
    Hadrien

  57. 57 On August 20th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    Hadrien, No once you have installed the iPod will display the connect computer to restore. Itunes will detect the iPod and will offer you to format and restore.

    regards, Tarkan

  58. 58 On August 21st, 2007, Dave said:

    Hey Tarkan,

    After my HD died, I was considering something like this but realized that the task would go well beyond the scope of my soldering skill, and for that matter, the usefullness of the iron I have: the connectors are just too small! So if you ever consider selling CF adaptors, or your PCB design, please let me know.

  59. 59 On August 22nd, 2007, Tarkan said:

    Stay tuned I will have some news in the next few days about the for sale version of the adaptor.

  60. 60 On August 22nd, 2007, kevin said:

    If you can put me on the list of people to email when you are ready to sell adaptor

  61. 61 On August 24th, 2007, Darren said:

    you mentioned were you sourced the connectors, but where did you find the PCB. When you said “Now I could finalise the circuit board design and get the PCB made.” do you mean that you made this yourself? or did you have someone make it for you?

    Your help is greatly appreciated and thanks for the work you’ve done already.

  62. 62 On August 25th, 2007, Dunks0r said:

    Can you put me down for one to purchase as well. I happen to have a dead 5G and a 8Gb CF which would love to meet each other.

    Thanks!

  63. 63 On August 25th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    I have invited ten people to test out the pre-release version. As soon as I receive feedback - I will start mass selling.

  64. 64 On August 29th, 2007, utp said:

    Hi, wonder does this connector would work on my laptop with a 1.8″ ZIF connector? (Toshiba MK6008GAH or Sandisk SSD5K-B8Z1-S032), if you can you also can you please put me down for one as well???

    Great thanks!!!!

  65. 65 On August 29th, 2007, Sean said:

    Tarkan, about how much do you think the adapters will cost when you put them up for sale?

  66. 66 On August 29th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    I have written up my battery life tests using compact flash… it can be found here http://www.tarkan.info/20070826/tutorials/apple-video-ipod-battery-life-compact-flash/

  67. 67 On September 1st, 2007, Rick said:

    hi Tarkan, great work, I have a dead HD in my 5G iPod so this would be a really cool thing to do. But I’m no good at soldering, so if you decide to sell this awsome adaptor, I would be happy to buy a couple! - thanks, Rick

  68. 68 On September 1st, 2007, Rick said:

    ps where did you get your price for the replacement hard drive, I still havent found one for around 60 quid…
    - I’d still prefer flash memory in mypod - let us know - Rick

  69. 69 On September 4th, 2007, more adapters… : Wonderful Thoughts said:

    [...] then, the reason I was almost blown away with Tarkan’s project is because I’ve got a 5G-adapter coming up too. I already told in my video that an adapter [...]

  70. 70 On October 21st, 2007, kyle said:

    hey man, ill be willing to buy one of these if possible. thanks send us an email.

  71. 71 On October 27th, 2007, Luis said:

    Where I can get the adapter and with than solicitous name
    Thanks

  72. 72 On November 9th, 2007, Tony said:

    Still around?! I may need this adapter too! :P Small problem though, I can’t seem to get the “flip” up on the zif drive… taking my time though. I see two little “pry spots” one on either side of the ribbon but as I’m trying to pry… not good.

  73. 73 On November 9th, 2007, Tony said:

    OK. You don’t flip the connector up or unlock it at all, it just pulls out apparently. I see your adapter is finally for sale. I’m interested in purchasing one, please e-mail me to let me know they’re still for sale. Thanks again for your wonderful work.

  74. 74 On November 18th, 2007, Chris said:

    Hey Tarkan, this question is semi off topic. I am trying to repair a friends ipod video 80 gig model,
    I replaced the headphone jack but it appears there may also be a problem with the battery, but before I go ahead and
    order a replacement I was hoping to find the measurements from a functional battery pack, my google searchs have turned up
    little to nothing about the actual measurements I should be getting from the ribbon cable coming off the battery pack. Hoping
    you might be able to supply those numbers for me

  75. 75 On November 18th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    Hi Chris,

    The Li-Ion batteries that are used in the iPod are hard to measure capacity and condition from terminal voltage.

    I would say the best way to determine if it is worth changing the battery or not is to connect the battery to the iPod leave it on charge till the iPod reports that it is full (about 4 hours).

    Then remove the battery from the iPod and leave it alone for an hour or so, then measure the terminal voltage.

    If the battery is very good I would expect the voltage to be very close to 4.0v or even higher, anything below 3.8v would make me suspect the battery’s condition.

    Terminal voltage at full charge is 4.2v, with no load a freshly charged battery should show 4.2v - however the iPod battery is smart, i.e. it has builtin battery monitoring and charging circuits, which does draw a very small amount of current which will bring that voltage down.

    regards, Tarkan

  76. 76 On December 15th, 2007, Alex said:

    Hi Tarkan!
    Really nice and structured job you did…
    I like the idea to improve an ipod with a lesser probability of failure and optimized power consumption. I am using my old 3g ipod, have only 2 hours batterie capacity with the same habits to use the device you have and now i would like to do this project with a better 5g ipod.

    could you deliver more information how to print the pcb and where you made it? also i have now idea which pins to connect on the pcb.. i checked the hirose page and think you used the FH12- 40 S-0.5SH connector, right?

    another thing: do you have suggestions to install a bigger batterie? after the adjustment to CF drive theres plenty of space to carry many ampere hours.. is the smart batterie necessary or can you simply use any pack with the right cell voltage?

    thanks for a short reply!

    ciao
    alex

  77. 77 On December 16th, 2007, Alex said:

    cool, i just found out youre selling the stuff..
    looks good.

  78. 78 On December 17th, 2007, Alex said:

    hello!
    thanks for your reply.

    just an additional comment…
    theres an adaptor to combine 2 cf cards.
    here you can find something that might work together with standard IDE communication the ipod is using:

    http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33190/139/

    also on the sonnet batteries homepage you can find slim and nice batteries used for the 1st generation ipod. there could be a chance that this one could fit inside later ipods… 2000 mAh would be plenty of juice.
    who thinks it could work that way?

    cioa alex

  79. 79 On December 17th, 2007, Tarkan said:

    I’ve seen that before, I did contemplate fitting 2 CF cards in to the 5th Gen ipods. The cards will fit plus the connectors but you needs lots of circuitry to emulate 2 cards in to 1. I do have a design for a 2 CF card circuit but wired in a master/slave config, not sure if the iPod can do that and most certainly would need a firmware hack - maybe Rockbox.

    I cannot find any size specs for them 1g batteries, but it just maybe possible to use one of them with the deeper back case from a 80/60Gb ipod - also the connection has to be altered.

  80. 80 On December 21st, 2007, barcj said:

    Great news.With CF card,I can put all my music on computer to the ipod.The last question left is the price of CF card.:(

  81. 81 On January 5th, 2008, Frank said:

    can you tell me how to buy the adaptor via money order i live on the usa thanks

  82. 82 On February 17th, 2008, Bidoux said:

    I would like to try the same thing with a zune 30gb.
    I thing the hardrives are the same (MK3008GAL).
    Would it work ?

  83. 83 On February 17th, 2008, Tarkan said:

    Yes it should work, the Zune has the same ZIF connection as the iPod.

  84. 84 On August 4th, 2008, go to work bog said:

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