Comments on: How to: Build a file server… Assembly…(Part 2) http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2 Welcome to the Notice Bored Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:45:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Tarkan http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-3494 Tarkan Fri, 23 May 2008 14:19:34 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-3494 Hi Mufley, The third and final part will be up soon, I am still experimenting with the software. I have been hoping the Windows Home Server would have a fix for the corruption issues and looks like they have entered Beta testing on this issue. I have been running Windows Server 2008 on my server and it has been working great!! Hi Mufley,

The third and final part will be up soon, I am still experimenting with the software.

I have been hoping the Windows Home Server would have a fix for the corruption issues and looks like they have entered Beta testing on this issue.

I have been running Windows Server 2008 on my server and it has been working great!!

]]> By: Mufley http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-3476 Mufley Wed, 21 May 2008 11:25:43 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-3476 Hi there... You mention that the third part will focus on the software side. Have manage or published the third part? Excellent stuff these 2 parts ... looking forward for you third part... Mufley Hi there…

You mention that the third part will focus on the software side.

Have manage or published the third part?

Excellent stuff these 2 parts … looking forward for you third part…

Mufley

]]> By: Nick http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2542 Nick Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:54:05 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2542 It was actually the drive pooling feature which first attracted me to WHS - I tend to upgrade stuff in my workstations quite frequently, and I really liked the idea of being able to just chuck redundant HDDs into the server as and when they became available, and add them all to a single seamless storage "space"... ironically though, as you say, it seems this is the very feature which is currently causing the data corruption issues so many people are experiencing. I guess an alternative (and no doubt far better) way to do things would be to install FreeBSD 7 or OpenSolaris and use Sun's phenomenal ZFS (the "last word in file systems"), but it will mean getting to grips with yet another OS... It was actually the drive pooling feature which first attracted me to WHS - I tend to upgrade stuff in my workstations quite frequently, and I really liked the idea of being able to just chuck redundant HDDs into the server as and when they became available, and add them all to a single seamless storage “space”… ironically though, as you say, it seems this is the very feature which is currently causing the data corruption issues so many people are experiencing.

I guess an alternative (and no doubt far better) way to do things would be to install FreeBSD 7 or OpenSolaris and use Sun’s phenomenal ZFS (the “last word in file systems”), but it will mean getting to grips with yet another OS…

]]> By: Tarkan http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2537 Tarkan Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:06:01 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2537 I beta tested Windows Home Server, while it is has great features - I think Microsoft really failed by adding a secondary file system on top of the O/S filesystem - hence the issues with data corruption, etc.... Thanks for freenas tip, will look in to it. Vinyl floor tiles are not very maleable - I would really suggest my tip above - the Lead Roof Flashing, very cheap, and very sticky, easy to cut and easy to apply !!! I beta tested Windows Home Server, while it is has great features - I think Microsoft really failed by adding a secondary file system on top of the O/S filesystem - hence the issues with data corruption, etc….

Thanks for freenas tip, will look in to it.

Vinyl floor tiles are not very maleable - I would really suggest my tip above - the Lead Roof Flashing, very cheap, and very sticky, easy to cut and easy to apply !!!

]]> By: Nick http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2535 Nick Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:43:14 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2535 I'm thinking of a small server build very similar to yours - in fact, I'd already discovered the Sharkoon case and it was googling for further information which brought me to this site. Like the poster above, I'm finding the neoprene sheeting a little pricey and difficult to source in small amounts - I wonder if self-adhesive vinyl floor tiles, in one or more layers, would do the job (I've got plenty of those kicking around)? I guess it's really just a case of adding mass to the panels and lowering the resonant frequency to a harmless level. I don't need hot-swappability for the HDDs, so I'll probably use Coolermaster 4-in-3 modules as a cheap alternative to the Icy Docks (available in the UK from Scan). You mentioned a FreeBSD based OS - I guess you've already checked out FreeNAS (www.freenas.org)? Personally I was hoping to use Windows Home Server, as it has a perfect feature set for my needs, but until MS fixes the data corruption bug it's broken and unusable. :( Thanks for posting the details of your project, it's fascinating stuff, looking forward to the next instalment... I’m thinking of a small server build very similar to yours - in fact, I’d already discovered the Sharkoon case and it was googling for further information which brought me to this site.

Like the poster above, I’m finding the neoprene sheeting a little pricey and difficult to source in small amounts - I wonder if self-adhesive vinyl floor tiles, in one or more layers, would do the job (I’ve got plenty of those kicking around)? I guess it’s really just a case of adding mass to the panels and lowering the resonant frequency to a harmless level.

I don’t need hot-swappability for the HDDs, so I’ll probably use Coolermaster 4-in-3 modules as a cheap alternative to the Icy Docks (available in the UK from Scan).

You mentioned a FreeBSD based OS - I guess you’ve already checked out FreeNAS (www.freenas.org)? Personally I was hoping to use Windows Home Server, as it has a perfect feature set for my needs, but until MS fixes the data corruption bug it’s broken and unusable. :(

Thanks for posting the details of your project, it’s fascinating stuff, looking forward to the next instalment…

]]> By: Tarkan http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2332 Tarkan Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:59:15 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2332 Thanks for the comment. I have delayed my final part as I am testing out windows server 2008 on my server box. I was contemplating a FreeBSD or Linux based operating system, but I may just stick with MS based as they do seem to work better with the Vista boxes dotted around the house. Thanks for the comment. I have delayed my final part as I am testing out windows server 2008 on my server box.

I was contemplating a FreeBSD or Linux based operating system, but I may just stick with MS based as they do seem to work better with the Vista boxes dotted around the house.

]]> By: NickC http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2331 NickC Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:22:21 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2331 If you're looking for a robust, cheap O/S for your server - I would suggest NASLite-2 from ServerElements. It has served me very well in my 2.3TB server (in a Yeong-Yang YY-B0221 server cube, 9 x HDD's and a CF>IDE adapter for the O/S). It is currently linux kernel 2.4.35 based and retails for $29.95. If you’re looking for a robust, cheap O/S for your server - I would suggest NASLite-2 from ServerElements. It has served me very well in my 2.3TB server (in a Yeong-Yang YY-B0221 server cube, 9 x HDD’s and a CF>IDE adapter for the O/S). It is currently linux kernel 2.4.35 based and retails for $29.95.

]]> By: Dan Sketcher http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2159 Dan Sketcher Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:11:09 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2159 Thank you so much, that's much more like it! Cheers Dan Thank you so much, that’s much more like it!

Cheers
Dan

]]> By: Tarkan http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2151 Tarkan Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:16:49 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2151 All you need to find is rubber sheeting it does not have to be anything fancy. I purchase my sheeting from RS components and a 1.2m x 2m x 3mm comes to about £20. RS are not cheap so you can probably get this from specialist rubber suppliers for much cheaper. If all fails I have used Roof (lead) Flashing in the past, which does as good a job and it is very cheap and can be picked up from most DIY shops. Last time I looked 75mm x 3m roll was about £2. one roll will probably be enough for a case. All you need to find is rubber sheeting it does not have to be anything fancy.

I purchase my sheeting from RS components and a 1.2m x 2m x 3mm comes to about £20. RS are not cheap so you can probably get this from specialist rubber suppliers for much cheaper.

If all fails I have used Roof (lead) Flashing in the past, which does as good a job and it is very cheap and can be picked up from most DIY shops. Last time I looked 75mm x 3m roll was about £2. one roll will probably be enough for a case.

]]> By: Dan Sketcher http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2136 Dan Sketcher Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:55:10 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2136 Ah thanks - I was actually asking about the stuff you stuck to the case. Sorry for not being clear. The only sound insulation I can find from a UK provider is the AcoustiPack material, which is not cheap.. I also saw some insulation material from frozencpu.com which looked ok.. Ah thanks - I was actually asking about the stuff you stuck to the case. Sorry for not being clear.

The only sound insulation I can find from a UK provider is the AcoustiPack material, which is not cheap.. I also saw some insulation material from frozencpu.com which looked ok..

]]> By: Tarkan http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2128 Tarkan Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:11:34 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2128 I used the foam air filters from a vacuum cleaner, you can buy the filters for about £2.00 or so from most electrical outlets. It does not matter what manufacturer as you will have to cut it up to the correct size to fit in to the cages. I used the foam air filters from a vacuum cleaner, you can buy the filters for about £2.00 or so from most electrical outlets. It does not matter what manufacturer as you will have to cut it up to the correct size to fit in to the cages.

]]> By: Dan Sketcher http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2#comment-2127 Dan Sketcher Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:53:36 +0000 http://www.tarkan.info/20080109/tutorials/file-server-part-2/#comment-2127 What foam did you use for this? I'm looking for an economical solution :) What foam did you use for this? I’m looking for an economical solution :)

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