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24th March 2014

Teaser: The 1Tb iPod

By Tarkan | Permanent Link
Updated Tue, 25th March 2014

The Teaser

Yes the title is correct the 1TB iPod, as in 1 terabyte, or 930Gb useable for the lawyers…..

iTunes and the 1Tb iPod

iTunes and the 1Tb iPod

1TB iPod Screen

1TB iPod Screen

FAQ’s

This will be a complementary product to the iFlash, it will be designed for people who want more than 256Gb.

So for 256Gb or less in storage, the iFlash and SD or CF card will always be the better option – especially in terms of battery life.

Getting 1000 Gb in to an iPod is not going to be cheap and while I have a working prototype and development is still continuing, it may be that I will not move to production if the demand is not great enough and the resulting price would be too high!!!

Again while I have a working prototype, I am still at the very early development stage. I have many issues to solve including but not limited to:- power consumption, drive access stability, seamless compatibility with all iPods (5g,6g,7g) I am working on, and final product cost.

Some Stats

Transfer speed on my test 5g iPod Video is approximately 8 to 9MB/s, so syncing the full 930Gb will take around 30 Hours. On the 6g/7g iPod Classics transfer speeds are nearer 16 – 18Mb/s so about 15 Hours to fill.

Power consumption is not going to be great, and I cannot really tell you anything as my development/prototype boards are not using the iPod’s internal battery (Yes, it really is that bad!!).

The iTunes music database starts to struggle around the 50000 tracks, so to fill 1Tb you will need many lossless music files – rather than millions of low quality files.

I have not tried Rockbox yet, while I expect it to work ok on the 5g Video’s the 6g/7g Classics may not. Rockbox’s file/directory based music storage will probably allow much greater than 50000 tracks.

1TB will probably be the limit for the iPods as I suspect it is at the limitations of the firmware. I will post another teaser if I manage to squeeze more in to some of the newer iPods but I suspect 1TB will be it!!!!!

Timeframe

Not sure, it could be 4 weeks or 4 months or even 4 years – I am working on it and it will be announced when and if its ready for primetime……

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  1. 1 On March 25th, 2014, cmarti said:

    Hi Tarkan, this sounds awesome. I already have an 480gb iPod video and the idea of having a 1TB is tempting.

    Can you please post a picture of the components you are using to achieve 1TB?

    Also I noticed that the “Notify me” option on our pages is not working.

    It would be great if we could subscribe to your posts. *please fix this*

  2. 2 On March 25th, 2014, Tarkan said:

    I am not using anything off the shelf, the development boards I use are things I have designed and made myself.

    I am quite guarded about the development methods and board designs I use, so I would not be able to show pics at this stage (I use this stuff for my day job!!!)

    Expect some pics once the next prototype board is produced, as this will be a self-contained prototype board for the iPod.

    I will look in to the subscribe function, if you click on Notify me of follow-up comments by email – you should get an email from wordpress.com asking if you want to subscribe to the post.

  3. 3 On March 25th, 2014, cmarti said:

    Thank you Tarkan. The subscribe worked for me this time, all is good now.
    Looking forward to read and follow the results of the development and research of these projects.

  4. 4 On May 12th, 2014, john thompson said:

    OMG… Cool!… for real..
    well, look, I was just looking for a thing like this in the web like, 2 years ago… but I jist meet this!.. is incredible… I was planning to so some stuff like this, but with 2TB… well, the 95% of my music is in flac… and I already reached 3TB of it… so, my plan was to convert all these files to 320kb mp3, or just put my favorites flac on the ipod… well, this is a huge thing you done… I just hope that you keep going, so ou could share all of your data and things used for this prototype or even star producing… but well, I was thinking in somehow conect and ordinary iPod plassic 6g to a Lacie Rougged 2TB HDD, and yes, it would be a frankePod, I know, but at least I could have a real huge ipod… it’s a very ambicious proyect I have in mind… well… can you tell me what do you stuied or what are you studying so you can do this kind of stuff? I mean, I always wanted to do things like this, modify the hardware, adapt it, even the firmware… but I don’t know what career or what I have to study to do this kind of things… so, can you tell me please?…. ok, that’s all, I will be visiting this page to be updated with the hot news of this/your project, and will hare with my friends so they can take a look to the future of these devices… well, it’s great! cool! see you!

  5. 5 On May 12th, 2014, Tarkan said:

    I have managed to restore and boot using a 3Tb drive on a 7g iPod. I synced about 250Gb of music and played around a little with no issues – I done no further testing so not sure if the iPod will accept a full drive with 3Tb of music!

  6. 6 On June 5th, 2014, Steven M said:

    That sounds like music to my ears. Having upgraded my entire library to lossless and buying High-resolution (192khz/24bit) downloads online, your work dovetails nicely with the cutting edge evolution in digital music. Neil Young is promoting his own High-resolution player (PONO) but it has very low capacity, something much less than 100gb, 64Gb or so I think. Most of my iPod installations are fixed-base, meaning they are in a docking station or in a vehicle (boat/car) where a direct connection to a constant power supply makes the power consumption much less of an issue for my purposes.
    I have about 650Gb so far, so 1Tb will work for a year or two for me.

  7. 7 On June 8th, 2014, Ipod Classic 7 th Gen said:

    I have allot of interested people that are watching this thed take off, Put me down for two units to see if I can sell more, I will look forward to see what develops.
    Thanks Tarka

  8. 8 On June 12th, 2014, Charles said:

    Hi Tarkan,

    This is great work. Once completed I would be very keen to get one or more of these. Please keep up the good work, and keep me posted!!

  9. 9 On June 14th, 2014, steven manseau said:

    What would you estimate the costs of an upgrade + shipping (both ways) verses just buying new? Shipping to USA 01862.

    I have three to upgrade.

    Steven M.

  10. 10 On July 16th, 2014, Matt said:

    Would this work with Rockbox? I only care about playing flacs.

  11. 11 On July 17th, 2014, Tarkan said:

    Work is being done on this – it is working, but emCore / Rockbox is not as stable as the Apple OS, yet!!

  12. 12 On August 30th, 2014, Adam said:

    I’ll take one of those please – all day long.

    As the trend continues towards better quality lossless files, space is once again an issue for portables.

    Best Wishes with you work.

  13. 13 On September 4th, 2014, rem said:

    count me in to buy it

  14. 14 On September 5th, 2014, Ipod Classic 7 th Gen said:

    Hello Tarken,
    I have been waiting to hear what the latest of the 1TB IPOD? can you please update us are we getting close to be able to purchase this yet?

  15. 15 On September 7th, 2014, Dante said:

    I would buy one. For sure.

    Looking forward

  16. 16 On September 15th, 2014, Dodu said:

    I would definitely buy one too !

  17. 17 On September 17th, 2014, fan said:

    Sandisk actually created a 512GB sd card…this should be great for your project?

    if we wait one more year they will probably do a 1To sd card?

  18. 18 On September 25th, 2014, Guillaume Bougard said:

    Do count me in for a 1TB (or more) iPod and please keep us informed and keep up the fantastic work

  19. 19 On September 27th, 2014, john said:

    Mein Gott!! Really man, you are awesome… please, keep us informed, we all expect that you finish this project soon, so we can buy one and have a good time… but, if you need more time, don¿t worry man, we can wait, anyway, you are the one that really wants to improve the iPod, not like the idiots from Apple that discontinued the production ¬¬… anyway, just keep usinformed, ok? I hope you finish soon, I really want a 3 TB iPod for all my flac files…

  20. 20 On October 30th, 2014, Richard said:

    The demise of the iPod classic and the subsequent hike in prices for the remaining stock shows that there is a market for high capacity iPods. When I ran out of space for my mix of compressed and lossless music on a 160gb iPod I decided to take the plunge and re-rip all my CDs losslessly and live with having to compress for the iPod. However if there could be a way to carry all my music around in a lossless format, I’d jump at it. In the meantime my iPod appears to be dying, so if you could bring this project to a successful conclusion, I’d buy one!

  21. 21 On October 30th, 2014, cmarti said:

    Richard, this project has been a reality right now. I been using Tarkan’s adapter on my 7th gen iPod for a little bit loinger than two months and the iPod works flawlessly. Right now the iPod sports a 512gb mSATA card.

  22. 22 On October 30th, 2014, Guillaume Bougard said:

    Fabulous
    How soon do you think the 1tb barrier will be broken?

  23. 23 On October 31st, 2014, Richard said:

    Thanks for highlighting, I seem to have completely missed the mSATA option! There does appear to be one 1Tb mSATA drive on the market; would this fit to make the 1Tb iPod a reality?

  24. 24 On October 31st, 2014, Tarkan said:

    Yes the 1Tb mSata is working. I used it in my recent runtime shootout.

    For that article it was loaded up with a 45000 tracks 930Gb music collection.

  25. 25 On October 31st, 2014, Guillaume Bougard said:

    When can I order a 1tb ipod?
    How much?

  26. 26 On November 7th, 2014, Balquier said:

    Guillaume,

    If you are French, feel free to contact me
    I built a 1Tb Ipod for myself
    balquier_at_yahoo.fr

  27. 27 On November 16th, 2014, john thompson said:

    Hi, again…. well well well, I am so interesed in one of your iPods.. but, I want to know if you are planning to do a 3TB iPod, because, well, that is my dream, lol, a 3TB iPod for aaaaaaaaaaall my FLAC music… I hope you really plan to do it bro… and, well, I live in anoher country, so, I don’t know if you will send your iPods via Fedex or something like that, I will pay everything you know.. but first let me knoe if you will make a 3TB iPod, I think I will buy you 2… and maybe 1 TB too… continue your great project! see you! keep us informed!!!

  28. 28 On November 26th, 2014, WildmaN said:

    Hey Tarkan, can you test an iPod 7.5 160gb classic running Rockbox with the 512gb msata drive? I want to know if it still has the battery drain problem like it did with the 256gb sd card. Thanks in advance.

  29. 29 On November 26th, 2014, Tarkan said:

    The problem you had with Power consumption using Rockbox, was related to a bug in EmCore and Rockbox, which has been resolved in the newest builds of both.

    I have not seen higher power use on Rockbox compared to the Apple OS.

  30. 30 On November 26th, 2014, WildmaN said:

    Okay, I wasn’t aware of the update. Thanks for telling me about it. Now my other question is, are the audio channels normal and not reversed? Because in the Rockbox program I used for hard drives, it had a patch for audio channel swap. Because the channels were reversed. (right was left, and left was right) And I am talking about the Classic with Rockbox.

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